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threedogs
21st September 2015, 01:39 PM
I've seen plenty of Boxes or dog crates over the
years fitted via the class 2 receiver hitch [towbar]
This may well take the cake.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FOLDABLE-CARGO-TRAILER-HITCH-HAULER-CARRY-RACK-SUIT-2-INCH-TOW-BARS-/111735319882?hash=item1a03f1ad4a
Fwdpatrol
21st September 2015, 01:52 PM
Yep i would say totaly illegal in Australia
threedogs
21st September 2015, 01:57 PM
really that has cop bait written all over it to me,
legal you say maybe no law to cover it yet
Cuppa
21st September 2015, 02:43 PM
really that has cop bait written all over it to me,
Certainly does! Regardless of whether it’s legal or not the dynamics of carrying weight that far behind the rear axle & only supported on it’s centre axis which is what - just say 70mm square? is just asking for problems. It’s a product which appeals to folk who let their wishful thinking override their common sense. The thought process is “If they make & sell something like that it must be ok” ....Wrong!
Hitchhauler are an American company I believe, & they also do very similar setups to carry motorcycles. I seriously considered one for our bus for about two minutes. We ended up towing an enclosed bike trailer.
Whether illegal or not would depend upon what vehicle it was attached to. I can’t think of any where it would be legal, but maybe they exist?
The law says that the length of the vehicle’s overhang (i.e. from the centre of the rear axle to the rearmost part of the vehicle - including any attachments like tow balls etc) must not exceed 3.7m or 60% of the vehicle’s wheelbase (mid axle to mid axle).
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=61473&stc=1
Hodge
21st September 2015, 02:44 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't a lot of those bike and motorbikes carriers on the back the same way ??
As long as the number plates and lights are visible its OK ???
Just a thought .
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threedogs
21st September 2015, 02:50 PM
@ Cuppa its 50v50 rhs next you'll have ppl carring fuel in them, not good in a rear ender .
Im with Cuppa its all wrong and they say max is 230kg or your max towball weight.
Its alot different to a bike carrier
Bigcol
21st September 2015, 06:15 PM
should ask them "under which relevant law, is this permissible"...............
none by the sounds of it.....
threedogs
21st September 2015, 06:21 PM
When I first started business and asked heaps of questions from different
departments I found there is no law toe towing, you can use coat hanger
wire to tow a 44 on pram wheels ,
Surely it sticks out far doesnt do yor departure angle any favours either LOL
the evil twin
21st September 2015, 07:19 PM
Rats... the Auction has been taken down.
Apparently 'there was an error in the listing'
Just as I was about to get a couple of them too...
threedogs
21st September 2015, 07:39 PM
Maybe he's on the forum lol spooky eh
Bigcol
21st September 2015, 07:49 PM
bugga, they wont get my message and reply now...............
dag nabbit
blocko05
21st September 2015, 09:25 PM
no way would I use it on any of my cars. If its not legal here in Australia then it should not even be able to be sold here IMO.
the evil twin
21st September 2015, 09:35 PM
Back up again but text has been amended http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-FOLDABLE-CARGO-TRAILER-THE-HITCH-HAULER-CARRY-RACK-SUIT-2-INCH-TOW-BARS/121766097779?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D20140107090050%26meid%3Da3d4f84573da4f1784c b2beaa227a10a%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%2 6sd%3D111735319882
It would be legal on a reasonable percentage of vehicles... pretty stupid, goddam ugly but legal
Patrol wagon any load projecting less than 1.8 metres past the rear axle centreline is OK.
Clunk
21st September 2015, 11:22 PM
what a great idea, one way to keep your COG down low
the evil twin
21st September 2015, 11:51 PM
what a great idea, one way to keep your COG down low
Cheaper than a rear bar for that big pesky spare and no more buggered back getting the wheel on/off the barn door.
Clunk
21st September 2015, 11:56 PM
Cheaper than a rear bar for that big pesky spare and no more buggered back getting the wheel on/off the barn door.
And no more reaching up high to get stuff onto or down from the roof rack....... such a back saving device
the evil twin
22nd September 2015, 11:06 AM
And no more reaching up high to get stuff onto or down from the roof rack....... such a back saving device
... or put the Engel on it and say bye bye fridge slide plus get your rear cargo area back.
Indeed, add a Gas Bottle, a Cooker and a Jerry of water and you have a tailgate kitchen... hope the Manuf can keep the supply up to demand
Winnie
22nd September 2015, 11:10 AM
Even for firewood, saves towing a trailer!
4bye4
22nd September 2015, 11:13 AM
Cheaper than a rear bar for that big pesky spare and no more buggered back getting the wheel on/off the barn door.
Just a buggered barn door if there is anything on it. Or take the spare off every time you wanted to open the barn door. Or back it into a wall cos you forgot. I can see a million uses for this.
the evil twin
22nd September 2015, 11:23 AM
Just a buggered barn door if there is anything on it. Or take the spare off every time you wanted to open the barn door. Or back it into a wall cos you forgot. I can see a million uses for this.
Hey, your right! Also works as a reversing sensor... I never thought of that.
Plus when its stowed it acts an anti-theft device as noone can open your barn doors and pinch stuff
threedogs
22nd September 2015, 11:29 AM
It may well replace the REDBACK rooftop bags ha ha ha tooo soon eh
Starting to tick a few boxes
the evil twin
22nd September 2015, 11:43 AM
It may well replace the REDBACK rooftop bags ha ha ha tooo soon eh
Starting to tick a few boxes
Nirvana, simply Nirvana, TD... Rack and Redback bag might even surpass a 2 inch lift as THE first mod to a 4X
threedogs
22nd September 2015, 11:51 AM
so let it be written, so let it be done lol
Im in put me down for one. he! he!
4bye4
22nd September 2015, 12:48 PM
Plenty of points to attach a snatch strap.
Bob
22nd September 2015, 01:18 PM
Would obscure the Lights in rear Bar of a GU if viewed from a angle
Bigcol
22nd September 2015, 07:53 PM
Would obscure the Lights in rear Bar of a GU if viewed from a angle
nah, most of us have done the "Christmas tree lights" mod
I have a thinking
I may be a buying
so many good ideas
I like the reversing sensor - especially for carparks............
GeeYou8
12th December 2015, 10:36 PM
Perfect for carrying the wet dog home from the beach.
NissanGQ4.2
13th December 2015, 07:34 PM
Good old legalities, might find there is no such thing for something like that.
Before it came a norm in Australia, I built my dirt bike rack 2 the guidelines I found for cycle racks. Never pulled up once and question about it :)
63237
Should see the some of the shit Americans can hang out a tow hitch receiver
janderson
13th December 2015, 08:31 PM
VicRoads rear overhang limits. https://www.dropbox.com/s/lpgmmdv43pxzbss/HeavyVehicleRearOverhangLimitsForCarsAndTrucksInVi ctoria%20%281%29.pdf?dl=0
jack
13th December 2015, 08:40 PM
Here you go
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