Swivel hub rebuild / CV repair reasonable Price?

[paddywagon]

G'day Boys and Girls,
I recently got a quote to get some work done on the front end of my truck. What do you guys think of the price?

Swivel Hub Kits -$386
Wheel Bearings - $253
CV Joint (Repair only) - $210
Diff Oils (Front + Back) - $142
Grease - $15
Labour - $693

Total Inc. GST. $1698 roughly

I have the dreaded steering wobble, the shims have already been removed from the swivel hub bearings and the left side wiper seal is leaking. RHS CV is clicking quite badly. I would love to be able to do the works myself but living in the city and parking on the street is a bit inhibiting at times.
Just trying to see if my mechanic is in the right ball park with this figure.
Cheers,
Pat.

[taslucas]

You can buy a good quality kit that includes:
2 x Top Swivel bearing
2 x Bottom Swivel bearing
2 x Swivel Wiper Seal
2 x Inner axle seal
2 x CV Seal
2 x Hub Seal
2 x Free Wheel Hub Gasket
2 x Spindle Bearings
for $200.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nissan-Patrol-Swivel-Rebuild-kit-GU-SH22GUSP-/290803485814?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43b53d0c76
I got a very similar kit to this from Online auto parts.com
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Swivel-rebuild-kit-OE-Quality-Nissan-Patrol-GQ-/190497291910?_trksid=p2054897.l4276

[paddywagon]

Do you think these kits would be as good as the OE? (I think that is what he quoted) I assumed, because my swivel hub bearing shims had been removed by the previous owner that this may be a contributing factor to my wheel wobble. Would this be accurate? I know there are a lot of factors to consider but the panhard rods seems quite new (adjustable superior engineering) and tight, it has had a wheel alignment/balance recently and has corrective castor bushes installed.

[NP99]

Go this one, I used it on my rebuild, no concerns at all

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nissan-Patrol-GU-Y61-4wd-Hub-Wheel-Bearing-Repair-Kit-Front-Swivel-knuckle-seal-/130975069713?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e7eb8f611&_uhb=1

Diff oils sound a bit on the extreme $ side. Get another quote mate.

[taslucas]

Do you think these kits would be as good as the OE? (I think that is what he quoted) I assumed, because my swivel hub bearing shims had been removed by the previous owner that this may be a contributing factor to my wheel wobble. Would this be accurate? I know there are a lot of factors to consider but the panhard rods seems quite new (adjustable superior engineering) and tight, it has had a wheel alignment/balance recently and has corrective castor bushes installed.

There are a lot of factors that can contribute to wheel wobble. Unfortunately it's usually just a case of trial and error fixing one part at a time till they go.
The swivel hub bearing shims would have been removed because the bearings were getting worn and loose. No guarantees that the wobbles will be gone but there's a good chance they will and it sounds like it will benefit from a front end freshen up

[MudRunnerTD]

G'day Boys and Girls,
I recently got a quote to get some work done on the front end of my truck. What do you guys think of the price?

Swivel Hub Kits -$386
Wheel Bearings - $253
CV Joint (Repair only) - $210
Diff Oils (Front + Back) - $142
Grease - $15
Labour - $693

Total Inc. GST. $1698 roughly

I have the dreaded steering wobble, the shims have already been removed from the swivel hub bearings and the left side wiper seal is leaking. RHS CV is clicking quite badly. I would love to be able to do the works myself but living in the city and parking on the street is a bit inhibiting at times.
Just trying to see if my mechanic is in the right ball park with this figure.
Cheers,
Pat.

Is that a price including labour to fit all those parts? If that's $386 for a swivel hub rebuild parts and labour it's a bargain!

Sorry just re-read your post. Nah they are taking the piss mate. Ask him if is labour charge stands if you supply all the parts?

He is doing the swivel hub rebuild mate so while its apart all the front diff oil will be drained and both Front CVs will be removed during the job as will all the wheel bearings.

None of those extra tasks will add labour time. In fact there is a real labour time saving if he is not having to clean CVs and bearings.

What is he doing to the CV to "repair" it????

[paddywagon]

Thanks for the input fellas! I will tell the mechanic I found some cheaper parts and see if he can do a better price. It is 10:3 diff oil that he quoted.. Does that make any difference?
taslucas- I hope it DOES make the wobble disappear! I previously had a GQ that slowly developed the wobble and gradually grew to an aggressive shake to the point where it was difficult to keep the vehicle on the road above 60kmh! I don't want this happening to my expensive pride and joy, which I plan on using for decades to come!

[taslucas]

G'day Boys and Girls,
I recently got a quote to get some work done on the front end of my truck. What do you guys think of the price?

Swivel Hub Kits -$386
Wheel Bearings - $253
CV Joint (Repair only) - $210
Diff Oils (Front + Back) - $142
Grease - $15
Labour - $693




Is that a price including labour to fit all those parts? If that's $386 for a swivel hub rebuild parts and labour it's a bargain!

Labour of $693. I'm guessing that's around 8 hours worth?
Which is about what it takes for the front swivel kit alone usually?

[MudRunnerTD]

Labour of $693. I'm guessing that's around 8 hours worth?

Yeah I was editing while you were quoting ;)

[Winnie]

I think the labour charge is not unreasonable. It's a real prick of a job. Messy and time consuming. As said though, parts can be had MUCH cheaper.

[paddywagon]

From what I read it is $386 for the swivel hub rebuild KIT ONLY and $693 labour to rebuild swivel hubs/repair RHS CV joint/change out diff oils.

[paddywagon]

He told me he sends then away to a specialist who decides if they are worth repairing or if they are beyond repair. I assume repairing a cv would mean larger bearings? Not too sure.

[taslucas]

From what I read it is $386 for the swivel hub rebuild KIT ONLY and $693 labour to rebuild swivel hubs/repair RHS CV joint/change out diff oils.

As mudrunner said, when you do the swivel hub rebuilt you gave to drop the diff oil anyway. Not sure what they will do to "repair" the cv but one would think it's nearly cheaper to slide a new cv in instead of spending labour on fixing an old one?
Rear diff oil change is less than 20 min job really.
It's common to take around 8 hrs to do the swivel hub rebuild.
How are they going to fix the cv? Maybe ask what the price difference would be if you supplied cv's?

[Bloodyaussie]

I cant believe how much they quote for what is really a basic job.... it's just messy and if you clean as you go and place everything out in order of dis assembly it is easy!!!

Get more quotes mate..

[MudRunnerTD]

The Only reason you would replace a CV is if its clicking, has visible damage or is stiff to manipulate in your hands when removed. It sounds like a classic "fries with that" kinda sell mate. Certainly not something that will make your front end wobble.

[paddywagon]

Thanks for all the input fellas! This forum is definitely worth having a poke around. I think I am going to have a talk to the mechanic regarding labour and the price for the oils and see what he says. I will repost with an update in the coming days.
Cheers,
Pat
P.S
Thanks again for all the advice!

[MudRunnerTD]

Thanks for all the input fellas! This forum is definitely worth having a poke around. I think I am going to have a talk to the mechanic regarding labour and the price for the oils and see what he says. I will repost with an update in the coming days.
Cheers,
Pat
P.S
Thanks again for all the advice!

Don't be surprised if he does not like you very much after you have asked him to justify his quote. Nose out of joint I reckon.

[taslucas]

Oh, i just remembered, i have two GU cv's i was trying to sell a while ago. Great condition but postage cost is a bit of a problem. If you want them and tell me before 5:30 am tomorrow, i could bring them over on the plane:)

[Clunk]

Not sure what the cost of other bits are, but I not long ago changed the diff oils in my GQ........ About 5.4ltrs of Penrite 80-90w for the front and a bit over 2ltrs of Penrite 85-140W limslip, I can't remember the exact cost but I do know it was over $100.

[NP99]

Not sure what the cost of other bits are, but I not long ago changed the diff oils in my GQ........ About 5.4ltrs of Penrite 80-90w for the front and a bit over 2ltrs of Penrite 85-140W limslip, I can't remember the exact cost but I do know it was over $100.

Even cheaper when the sales are on........

[BigRAWesty]

Yea I'm with the others and having just done it all he is taking you for a ride..
Oil was half that.
$250 foe the complete bearing and seal kit.
We drive rear wheels only for a majority of the time, and the cv's do nothing. So unless you can hear issues tell him don't touch em.

Do you have many tools at home, and a bit of space.
Seriously I used,
Screwdrivers, hammer, spanners, small cir'clip pliers, a vice (not essential but handy) and if you not removing the diff just stick it on blocks.
A hub nut socket, git mine with the bearing and seal kits.
A few others I'm sure but nothing specialized..
It is quite easy to carry out.
Take your time and the end result is very rewarding.

[NP99]

Yea I'm with the others and having just done it all he is taking you for a ride..
Oil was half that.
$250 foe the complete bearing and seal kit.
We drive rear wheels only for a majority of the time, and the cv's do nothing. So unless you can hear issues tell him don't touch em.

Do you have many tools at home, and a bit of space.
Seriously I used,
Screwdrivers, hammer, spanners, small cir'clip pliers, a vice (not essential but handy) and if you not removing the diff just stick it on blocks.
A hub nut socket, git mine with the bearing and seal kits.
A few others I'm sure but nothing specialized..
It is quite easy to carry out.
Take your time and the end result is very rewarding.

Esp with Mat helping. When he did mine I learnt more that day than I could ever hope to.

[paddywagon]

Yea I'm with the others and having just done it all he is taking you for a ride..
Oil was half that.
$250 foe the complete bearing and seal kit.
We drive rear wheels only for a majority of the time, and the cv's do nothing. So unless you can hear issues tell him don't touch em.

Do you have many tools at home, and a bit of space.
Seriously I used,
Screwdrivers, hammer, spanners, small cir'clip pliers, a vice (not essential but handy) and if you not removing the diff just stick it on blocks.
A hub nut socket, git mine with the bearing and seal kits.
A few others I'm sure but nothing specialized..
It is quite easy to carry out.
Take your time and the end result is very rewarding.


Only issue for me is I live in a unit so I have no where to work on it. The front right cv is clicking, left side wiper seal and/or axle seal is gone and spewing grease everywhere and there are no shims in the king pin bearings.. that coupled with the wheel wobble tells me it might be due for a rebuild up front (right wheel bearing getting a bit average too).

[P4trol]

You are saying thatBeing in a unit means you have strata type issues which prevent car maintenance?

I did mine over 3/4 weeks on the weekends. Overnight I put everything inside the car, (seats up) on rags. Some of it was quite convenient and able to be broken down into manageable tasks. Ie greasing the new bearings, applying anti size grease, greasing cvs etc.

Get some chemical proof gloves for using kero to clean, and a box of 100 disposable rubber ones for grease.