2WD possible?

[Nissuzu]

Hi

I'm in the middle of a dilema. I just don't know what to do! I'm from guatemala just to let you guys know.

My dad has a heavy equipment rental company and twice a week I need to go and check on them while they are away. I went to a place callen guachipilin and there I had to cross a river. on the way in everything went fine and I didn't have to switch to 4X4. I spend a couple of hours over there and I decided it was time to go back. At this point I should mention that this truck is stock from everything. Well, this couldn't be worse but I went thru the same spot and this time was diferent...the current was a little rough due to the rain up hills. I decided to switch to 4 by and suddendly got stuck on a stone under the car. Went back a little then forward and bum I just heard something hit the front case diff and I just knew it. Bottom of the line: broken front diff case and cracked transfer case.

I was towed away and very disapointed and I knew. It was my fault. I let her say at home for a couple of days and went looking for replacement parts.

To my surprise there was no place, wrecker yard or dismantler place to source these parts that I needed. I we to the dealer and they didn't have it either and it would cost an arm and a leg to import it from japan.

I evaluated my options and got to this point:

A: if I decide to import the parts and go that way it would be line $10K us to acomplish it. And I don't really have that much

B: to sell it as is and put an end to that ugly chapter

C: there might be a small chance to use it 2WD.

Seems like the B and C are more likely to happen and I kind of like the idea to convert it to 2WD, I know, I know it doesn't make any sense but my budget is limited and don't really want to get rid of her.

Is it possible? I mean convert it to 2WD? Will I use the same gearbox? Will I need to modify the suspension since I have no front case diff to use? Could I swap a front case from another truck?

I'm not sure if anybody has tried that but I guess I have to try.

Thanks in advance!
It will be really appreciated.

[happygu]

Be fairly difficult to convert to 2WD, as the tailshafts and diffs are offset from the gearbox, because everything goes through the transfer box.

How bad are the parts, is there no way of repair?
Have you got any pictures so that someone can offer assistance?

[Nissuzu]

Well that's a very good question! We evaluated welding the front case and also the xfer case but seems to be kind of difficult. We have experience in welding since my dad has a heavy equipment rental company and I personally do the welding and I can say its very dificult.

At this point I'm considering either an engine swap or a gearbox swap.

What do you guys think?

[Nissuzu]

Is there any other 2WD tranny as strong as the Y60 stock tranny? Could the xfer case be removed and mate toanother rear output nissan tranny?

Sorry I'm asking too many questions! I'm not very familiar with big size nissan transmissions so any info will be much appreciated. And who knows we could ended up building something unique. Hahaha

[mudnut]

Gidday Nissuzu, I just had a look under my wagon. The rear of the gear box is in line with the rear diff. I wonder if you are able to get a longer tail shaft made up? That is if the output of the gear box will accept a tail shaft. Remove the drive shafts, cv joints etc from the front and just weld up the cracks in the front diff?

[nissannewby]

It will prob be easiest to cut your losses and sell it. You could run an extended tail shaft from the rear of the gearbox, how ever you will need to machine a flange up which won't be easy as it will go onto a spline, the handbrake is mounted on the tailshaft so you will need to take this into account. There's also the possibility the extended shaft and new placement of handbrake could foul on the body or cross embers.

Going to 2wd is easy just remove the front driveshaft. And keep hubs unlocked.

I'm not entirely sure but if the transfer is a straight drive through to the rear shaft you could get away with not running oil but I think it's gear driven so may rule it out.

[mudnut]

I forgot about the handbrake, sorry.

[Nissuzu]

Wow! I haven't tought about it. Yeap the e brake is on the way but it might be possible. I just need to check if its the same spline tooth. I'll check it when I get home. Keep u guys posted. Thanks again.

[Nissuzu]

By the way, nobody told me if there as another gearbox compatible with the TD42. I mean is this engine thew only one which carried this gearbox?

[Clunk]

I believe the TB42 used the same gearbox.... but don't quote me on it

To tap, or not to tap: Well it's obviously tap because this is the signature hey!!!!!! Duh

[Nissuzu]

I know. Sometimes I would like to be owner of a wreck yard so I could just dismantle and try! Hahahaha. Let's see what happens. Anyhow I have so many ideas and projects on my mind for this truck. I will keep you guys posted for the outcome. And thank you so much for the help.

[my third 256]

have you tried mexico and usa
might find something there
even ebay

[GQPorkroll]

Anything is possible,

Firstly the diff is only steel, it can easily be disassembled and welded with an oxy welder no problems, just weld a plate over it.

Also for the transfer case, you can buy many glues and pastes that dry hard as steel. We have used JB Weld to repair crank cases on motorbikes, if directions are followed a transfer case could be repaired no worries. Search the Internet for either alloy glue or paste and I'm quite confident that will repair the transfer case enough. You can also weld alloy, but it is a specialist job. I would attempt to fix it with a glue or paste first, as they're only about $20aud for a good quality one. Welding would be around $200 or so.

I'm not sure why there is so much doom and gloom, it's stuff that's happened hundreds of times over years, and most people have repaired stuff without much drama, even on the road. Converting engines or making the truck 2WD is an insane suggestion.

[happygu]

Anything is possible,

Firstly the diff is only steel, it can easily be disassembled and welded with an oxy welder no problems, just weld a plate over it.

Also for the transfer case, you can buy many glues and pastes that dry hard as steel. We have used JB Weld to repair crank cases on motorbikes, if directions are followed a transfer case could be repaired no worries. Search the Internet for either alloy glue or paste and I'm quite confident that will repair the transfer case enough. You can also weld alloy, but it is a specialist job. I would attempt to fix it with a glue or paste first, as they're only about $20aud for a good quality one. Welding would be around $200 or so.

I'm not sure why there is so much doom and gloom, it's stuff that's happened hundreds of times over years, and most people have repaired stuff without much drama, even on the road. Converting engines or making the truck 2WD is an insane suggestion.

Tha's why I asked for any pictures, if possible, as then you can see if welding is possible.....
The panelbeater that is near my work has these insane glues, and glues up stuff that you wouldn't think possible

[GQPorkroll]

Yep agreed pics would help! But even without, it's fairly safe to assume you can fix it.

We glued a crank case on a race bike together, a radiator on a 4wd, petrol tanks, a gearbox, loads of stuff.

Find the right glue or paste and it will fix it.

[Morton]

buy a GU tranfer case, they are mostly the same & a minor swap out of one part, a mate of mine damaged his transfer case in his GU & fitted the GQ one, I thing they changed the yoke only, apparently an easy job

[taslucas]

buy a GU tranfer case, they are mostly the same & a minor swap out of one part, a mate of mine damaged his transfer case in his GU & fitted the GQ one, I thing they changed the yoke only, apparently an easy job

If he was going to go ahead a buy another transfer case (which he says he won't do as it works out to be too expensive), why not just get the same one thats in the vehicle?


FanTapstic!

[Nissuzu]

I knew u guys were asking for pictures. Sorry I only have my black berry and been busy since these past 2 days I had to rebuild 2 huge hydraulic cylinders from a cat D9. Going to mexico is another option since I traver3 times a year to usa. I'm sure it was an insane sugestion to convert it to 2wd. Well I was desperated. I was just evaluating my options. In regards to weld it...mmm...it might work, like I said: it was difficult but not impossible. I will contact some friends I have by the border here in guatemala and ask them if by any chance they know any wrecker place to source the parts. I' keep you posted. And thank you guys for the replies.

[Nissuzu]

Great news guys! I went on my regular trip to usa to see what could I buy to import to guatemala. I bought awrecked isuzu npr small truck with a mint engine, a 2WD chevy tahoe with a blown engine, and yes seems like u guys are starting to get the idea of an engine swap. So I just torch cut the chassy and necessary parts from the npr truck and sold the rest to a guy from the border. I'm now around tampico, mexico and found a guy who has a patrol as well. Now I need to make him sell it to me at a reasonable price since this beauty has been sat on the street for the last 3 years. Hopefully this will solve my problem and stop thinking that sinniful 2wd Conversionidea of mine. Keep u guys posted

[growler2058]

Good luck with mate


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