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mudski
7th October 2015, 04:48 PM
Whats the best way to repair the flogged out bolt holes on the diff brackets for the radius arms? One side is flogged out and I don't really want to put the arms back in with the holes like this. I was thinking to weld a washer to the bracket...
Also does anyone have a front sway bar and brackets from a GUIV or later? The radius arms i had to use as change overs are later GU ones and the sway bar brackets on mine won't bolt up.

Cheers.

threedogs
7th October 2015, 04:50 PM
weld a plate with a new hole in it

mudski
7th October 2015, 05:13 PM
weld a plate with a new hole in it

So I could just use a wide shoulder washer then.... Hopefully my welding skills will come out of the closet then. They seem to have been lost lately... Lol.

Bloodyaussie
7th October 2015, 05:14 PM
Need my gas bottle...???

BigRAWesty
7th October 2015, 05:45 PM
Weld on washers. It's a common issue with some castor correction bushes are to narrow and the bolts don't tighten properly..

threedogs
7th October 2015, 05:57 PM
Mark try the Metric Man up Keilor park they have huge washers about 3mm thick as well.
Easy to weld or if you like I can bring my invertor over and weld it for you.

BigRAWesty
7th October 2015, 06:22 PM
You could weld on a wide washer but it's a real small amount that is flogged out. You may need to try an imperial size to get a snug fit..
The weld on one's I got were manufactured

mudski
7th October 2015, 09:10 PM
Yer thanks for the tips. I have bolted it up for now and will attend to this at a later date.
Right now i need to find out this clunk in the steering, i had the missus sit and turn the wheel back and forth and i looked around. From what i have found, and felt, its coming from the steering box. Marvelous!

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BigRAWesty
7th October 2015, 09:34 PM
Yer thanks for the tips. I have bolted it up for now and will attend to this at a later date.
Right now i need to find out this clunk in the steering, i had the missus sit and turn the wheel back and forth and i looked around. From what i have found, and felt, its coming from the steering box. Marvelous!

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Adjust the top nut. But don't go to much at a time..

mudski
7th October 2015, 09:56 PM
I was looking at that but i seem to have "passion fingers" lately. Lol. So i didnt touch it. Plus im not entirely sure that it is the steering box. I did a quick google before and a few said the clunk whilst turning left is usually created from dodgy panhard rod bushes. Especially if your compressing the front suspension, like going into a driveway or similar. ill rip it off tomorrow and take a squiz. If that dont work ill try and bleed the power steering as the lines were disconnected during the conversion.

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BigRAWesty
8th October 2015, 06:11 AM
So what makes you think the radius arm bolt holes are flogged?
Are you getting a clunk when going threw ruts etc?
Maybe try simply tightening the radius arm bolts first. If this solves the problem the holes are flogged.
If not start looking elsewhere.

mudski
8th October 2015, 08:24 AM
So what makes you think the radius arm bolt holes are flogged?
Because I can clearly see it when I had the arms out.

Are you getting a clunk when going threw ruts etc?
turning the wheel, usually left and say into a driveway...

Maybe try simply tightening the radius arm bolts first. If this solves the problem the holes are flogged.
If not start looking elsewhere.
I'm looking elsewhere....

BigRAWesty
8th October 2015, 09:43 AM
If you can clearly see the holes flogged out I'd say do the washers first. You'll need longer bolts thou..
I can't understand the thought behind the Panhard bushes if it's only happening to the left.. the Panhard takes both left and right forces so you'd think it would happen either way and also create other issues like death wobbles..

My clunk were turning right or dips.. but my drivers side bolt holes were flogged out.

Do one at a time I'd say. Try tighten the radius bolts. If it goes away then that's your only issue.
If it's still there or even slightly reduced do the washers the tighten Panhard rod bolts..

Another thing you could try is pack each rod ending with grease and check after each one. The grease will pack out any slop for a little bit..

mudski
8th October 2015, 11:24 AM
Ok so far so good. No more clunk when turning left.
New radius arm bushes didnt help. My panhard rod uses the large spherical bush on the chassis end and the large hole bush on the other. Its an aftermarket adjustable rod which is around 18months old.
I had some oem bushes here so i though to replace them. Even though the spherical bush in the rod still looked ok, it was only ever so slightly loser than the new oem. I changed both over and also re bled the power steering just in case the was an air lock or something. Took Arthur for a spin and no clunks! Thank god for my Chinese press i have. Its paid for itself 10 times over...
Buuuut i also found the rear main is leaking whilst under there! The rhs axle seal is still leaking too after being replaced twice...
I fix one thing and find another. Ugh!

BigRAWesty
8th October 2015, 11:29 AM
Ok so far so good. No more clunk when turning left.
New radius arm bushes didnt help. My panhard rod uses the large spherical bush on the chassis end and the large hole bush on the other. Its an aftermarket adjustable rod which is around 18months old.
I had some oem bushes here so i though to replace them. Even though the spherical bush in the rod still looked ok, it was only ever so slightly loser than the new oem. I changed both over and also re bled the power steering just in case the was an air lock or something. Took Arthur for a spin and no clunks! Thank god for my Chinese press i have. Its paid for itself 10 times over...
Buuuut i also found the rear main is leaking whilst under there! The rhs axle seal is still leaking too after being replaced twice...
I fix one thing and find another. Ugh!
Well that's a good outcome.

threedogs
8th October 2015, 11:33 AM
Thats a new motor isnt it I would have thought it was a no brainer to fit a new rear main seal.
So you did two things to fix the clunk which one was it.

mudski
8th October 2015, 12:17 PM
Well that's a good outcome.
Yeah about time something went right in my favour....

Thats a new motor isnt it I would have thought it was a no brainer to fit a new rear main seal.
So you did two things to fix the clunk which one was it.

It had a new rear main fitted...These things happen, it will be fixed at no cost to me, just time without the car, again.
I reckon the large spherical bush was the culprit. As when I had the missus turning the wheel and I was under there looking, I had my hand on the steering box as it could feel the clunk there, I didn't really notice but where the large bush mounts is right next to the steering box. Plus the old bush had a small amount of play in it, plus it was aftermarket...

A small win here for me, but I feel that its not onwards and upwards but backwards and downwards at the moment. I just wanna got bush right now...

Not sure how to tackle the front axle seal leaking issue now. Two seals and it still leaks...

BigRAWesty
8th October 2015, 12:34 PM
Is it the seals or threw were the knuckle hub bolts to axle??
Or even a leaky caliper?

mudski
8th October 2015, 07:36 PM
Is it the seals or threw were the knuckle hub bolts to axle??
Or even a leaky caliper?
It diff oil Kallen, so it the seal. Im gonna hunt around for two thinner seals or even a double lip seal.

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BigRAWesty
8th October 2015, 07:36 PM
It diff oil Kallen, so it the seal. Im gonna hunt around for two thinner seals or even a double lip seal.

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Yea go the double if you can find em.

lhurley
8th October 2015, 08:28 PM
If your diff it warped the inner axle seal will flog out quicker then normal.

Also maybe when refitting the cv the seal was damaged by the axle.

nissannewby
8th October 2015, 08:48 PM
Who changed the last 2 seals mark?

mudski
8th October 2015, 09:31 PM
If your diff it warped the inner axle seal will flog out quicker then normal.

Also maybe when refitting the cv the seal was damaged by the axle.
Yeah possible, but the rhs axle is short and easy to put in. Where the seal sits had a few nics in it, obviously from when the old seal were removed, I cleaned them up good with the Dremel so I doubt its that.

Who changed the last 2 seals mark?

JPC changed both sides when they side the centre swap. I noticed the rhs was leaking so I put another in but to no avail.

nissannewby
8th October 2015, 09:36 PM
Ok. So either your housing is bent or when the old ones have been removed the machined surface has been damaged. It doesnt take a lot and it wont seal. How much of a groove is in the axle? Also did you lube the seal prior to axle fitment?

mudski
8th October 2015, 09:59 PM
Ok. So either your housing is bent or when the old ones have been removed the machined surface has been damaged. It doesnt take a lot and it wont seal. How much of a groove is in the axle? Also did you lube the seal prior to axle fitment?

I think its from the damaged surface mate tbh. No groove in the axle and I always lube up the seals prior to fitment. I'll pull it right apart again next week and really spend some time cleaning the surface up.